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<blockquote data-quote="qualitymonkey" data-source="post: 144807" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Hihihi</p><p></p><p>"Free will is an illusion. Our wills are simply not of our own making. Thoughts and intentions emerge from background causes of which we are unaware and over which we exert no conscious control. We do not have the freedom we think we have."</p><p></p><p>"These findings are difficult to reconcile with the sense that we are the conscious authors of our actions. One fact now seems indisputable: some moments before you are aware of what you will do next — a time in which you subjectively appear to have complete freedom to behave however you please — your brain has already determined what you will do. You then become conscious of this ‘decision’ and believe that you are in the process of making it."</p><p></p><p>"“The phrase free will”, therefore, as Harris later clarifies, simply “describes what it feels like to identify with certain mental states as they arise in consciousness” — and our ‘freedom’ constitutes nothing more than this illusory feeling of control.</p><p></p><p>In other words, we are the mere conscious witnesses to decisions that, deep in our brains, have already been made."</p><p></p><p>"On Harris's view, your genetics, your childhood, your environment — all of the stimuli you're made up of and exposed to has conditioned your brain, in this moment, to read these very words; and if or when you stop, again, it won't be because you've consciously decided to do so — it will be the result of a lifetime's worth of conditioning forged into your brain, a historical architecture of decision making that causes you to act the way you do at any given moment."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's funny that THAT feels more freeing to me than free will. Seriously.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="qualitymonkey, post: 144807, member: 34"] Hihihi "Free will is an illusion. Our wills are simply not of our own making. Thoughts and intentions emerge from background causes of which we are unaware and over which we exert no conscious control. We do not have the freedom we think we have." "These findings are difficult to reconcile with the sense that we are the conscious authors of our actions. One fact now seems indisputable: some moments before you are aware of what you will do next — a time in which you subjectively appear to have complete freedom to behave however you please — your brain has already determined what you will do. You then become conscious of this ‘decision’ and believe that you are in the process of making it." "“The phrase free will”, therefore, as Harris later clarifies, simply “describes what it feels like to identify with certain mental states as they arise in consciousness” — and our ‘freedom’ constitutes nothing more than this illusory feeling of control. In other words, we are the mere conscious witnesses to decisions that, deep in our brains, have already been made." "On Harris's view, your genetics, your childhood, your environment — all of the stimuli you're made up of and exposed to has conditioned your brain, in this moment, to read these very words; and if or when you stop, again, it won't be because you've consciously decided to do so — it will be the result of a lifetime's worth of conditioning forged into your brain, a historical architecture of decision making that causes you to act the way you do at any given moment." It's funny that THAT feels more freeing to me than free will. Seriously. [/QUOTE]
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